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| TBT OR RPG | | Ranges(TBT) | | 16% | [ 1 ] | | No Ranges(RPG) | | 83% | [ 5 ] |
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Ranged or rpg Mon May 23, 2011 7:09 am | |
| This is for a project of mine, what do you like better, a rpg like thing that has no ranges or a TBT(Turn based tactics) like thing. _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Tue May 24, 2011 4:59 am | |
| Come on i need you guys to answer! _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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Akira Elite Jounin


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Tue May 24, 2011 5:45 am | |
|  You will vote RPG!!! _________________Signature_________________ | Spoiler: | | |  |
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Kurowashi Saikoro Ninja Legend


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Tue May 24, 2011 7:06 am | |
| As I tried to do it, its RPG, then when people start throwing punches, it becomes turn based stat roll to make things fair for both players and the outcome becomes unpredictable to make things always interesting.
Theres no choice for that so I cant answer. |
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Tue May 24, 2011 10:49 am | |
| | Kurowashi Saikoro wrote: | As I tried to do it, its RPG, then when people start throwing punches, it becomes turn based stat roll to make things fair for both players and the outcome becomes unpredictable to make things always interesting.
Theres no choice for that so I cant answer. |
But that unpredictability Is its flaw, And then there is luck, V1 was a bit too much centered at unpredictability, that made it that the lucky would win. even if you were a level 99 against a level 1 academy student, the academy student good win with alot of luck. I would like a system that would have alot less to do with luck and more with numbers and weaknesses. _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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Kurowashi Saikoro Ninja Legend


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Tue May 24, 2011 5:44 pm | |
| unpridictability is what makes the game fair. If you dont want to play it like that, you are still able to play it straight RPG style. No one is forcing you to use Random Roll.
As long as you and your opponent come to the understanding how ever which of you actually wins the battle. |
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 4:56 am | |
| | Kurowashi Saikoro wrote: | unpridictability is what makes the game fair. If you dont want to play it like that, you are still able to play it straight RPG style. No one is forcing you to use Random Roll.
As long as you and your opponent come to the understanding how ever which of you actually wins the battle. |
Are you so sure Kurowashi?(Looks at raitonigu...)
Well with a rpg that would be an easy awnser. But any way... We should be discussing why not TBT. Well the easy answer would be that it is hard to understand.(for others) But you can do soo many awesome things, Hehehe. An rpg is... well REALLY easy to understand, who here has not played an rpg is lier. But its an rpg...
_________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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Kurowashi Saikoro Ninja Legend


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 6:18 am | |
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Rax_XII Elite Jounin


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 7:32 am | |
| well, why not its up to max to add something like this: | Spoiler: | | | unpridictability is what makes the game fair. If you dont want to play it like that, you are still able to play it straight RPG style or TBT. No one is forcing you to use Random Roll.
As long as you and your opponent come to the understanding how ever which of you actually wins the battle. |

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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 9:32 am | |
| But... then there is cheating... even i gotten Away with RR cheating in the past...
Any way this is discussion on Ranges or no ranges. _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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Kurowashi Saikoro Ninja Legend


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 6:37 pm | |
| Caught cheeters will be dealt at the appropriate time. We will burn that bridge when we cross it. |
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Kiyoraka San Elite Chunin


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 8:03 pm | |
| i understand what you both are saying. they both have flaws.
with the turn by turn someone can play you into a corner because of how advance the person is at role playing then a weaker person. i have proof of times where an advance role player going turn by turn and massacred the player in one to two moves. also people could god mod the fight and make it last past a reasonable time (to weeks or longer because of dodging). it gives one person a higher edge then role playing.
i am still new with this role playing style but from what i see if that cheating way with RR is eliminated then it will set it up as if it could really happen. just some limits and regulations could be set by it so at lets say a level 1 does not beat a level 50 because of lucky rolls. lets say because of the energy level has a lower critical ratio so its a fair fight.
i know it might not be my place to say anything but try putting it in perspective of all players.
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Wed May 25, 2011 10:31 pm | |
| | sakura-dark-twin22 wrote: | i understand what you both are saying. they both have flaws.
with the turn by turn someone can play you into a corner because of how advance the person is at role playing then a weaker person. i have proof of times where an advance role player going turn by turn and massacred the player in one to two moves. also people could god mod the fight and make it last past a reasonable time (to weeks or longer because of dodging). it gives one person a higher edge then role playing.
i am still new with this role playing style but from what i see if that cheating way with RR is eliminated then it will set it up as if it could really happen. just some limits and regulations could be set by it so at lets say a level 1 does not beat a level 50 because of lucky rolls. lets say because of the energy level has a lower critical ratio so its a fair fight.
i know it might not be my place to say anything but try putting it in perspective of all players.
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TBT-Turn based tactics. _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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Rax_XII Elite Jounin


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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Thu May 26, 2011 7:54 am | |
| its better to begin ur prototype of TBT somewhere max. So that we can understand it better. |
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L Detective to the MAX

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 | Subject: Re: Ranged or rpg Thu May 26, 2011 11:22 am | |
| Rax you know thats not it, i mean new players. The new players will not get how TBT work, as shown by kaz... Heck If i start to explain things, they will get even more complicated. Any way It seems that non ranged system is the most pop choice...
(TBT-turn based tactics is game system similar to TBS, But TBT uses a smaller amout of units. The games that use TBT are:Disgaea, final fantasy tactics and Fire Emblem. This system also goes by the name TRPG-Tactical role playing game.) _________________Signature_________________ Illusions or Real Illusions. Within the Illusions hide real Illusions... From the real Illusions, The Illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lies.... Within the lies hides the truth.
"Orb will not attack another nation, will not allow another nation to attack them, and will not intervene in the conflicts of other nations." – Motto of Orb
[quote="Albert Einstein"]Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.[/quote]
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