there are a lot of theorys to how he got i t and i would like to here what you lot think happend

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	Because Kakashis sharingan is Obitos it means that even if the people closest to kakashi are dead it won't change a thing. so for Mangekyou sharingan to happen the closest person to obito must die, so heres what im getting at i think over the time skip Rin dies and that triggers the effects to occure in obitos sharingan giveing kakashi Mangekyou

No...Obtio was the closet person to Kakashi and all he needed to do was train to get MS. If Rin were around with Kakashi, we would have most likely seen her before the time skip. She either died before Naruto's time or She is a Missining Nin.

yes he was two kakashi, but it was obitos sharingan so it would need the closest to him to die, and rin was that person which means she would have had to die. unless someone ells was closer to him which i doubt because he loved rin

RINS DEAD, MANGA 425 PAGE 2


very late but hey, never read it properly

No, actually it's because Kakashi blames himself for Obito's death. Similar to "killing" the one closest to you.

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The person Sasuke was closest two was Itachi, not Naruto.

This is an old topic xD

But anyhow, kakashi himself told sasuke that "everyone closest to me are already dead" after he stopped him and naruto from using the chidori/rasengan on each other when they were fighting on top of the hospital roof.

I have also read that murder of your best-friend is not the way to obtain the mangekyou, it is competition that activates the mangekyou-sharingan, as to how madara and his brother both obtain the MS.

Kakashi obtain the MS and obtain a technique. The dimensional-transfer, which is obtain by sharingan-eye-transplant. Since he always had Obito`s eye transplanted, he didn`t immediately obtain the technique because Obito had just obtain sharingan himself shortly before his death. They are one, Kakashi trained himself and his sharingan which is Obito. It was like competition, who was better, Kakashi himself or the gift that Obito gave him. When he obtained the MS he immediately obtain the dimensional-transfer technique since the eye was already a transplant.

Now, since he does have MS I don`t know if he needs to work to get tsukoyomi/amaterasu. Since one eye is one technique the the other is the other technique.

...lol, on a different note, sasuke might end up with EMS cuz of kakashi`s eye, regarding the last chapter.

You can't automatically assume that Kakashi's jutsu was obtained through eye transfer. Right now, it is just as likely that each person has certain jutsus, all different. Sasuke can of course, cast Amaterasu because of Itachi's eye powers. The last chapter didn't have anything to do with Kakashi's eye... unless I'm mistaken?!

Well it`s not assumption really, the dimensional-transfer is obtain when having a tranplanted MS, or sharingan then obtaining MS in his case. And it`s not that everyone has certain jutsu, it`s the skills and other kinds of jutsu they train for. Take the eye that Donzu has in his head, it has the ability of the uchiha that he took it from it was not mangekyou but a strong technique he can do.

Itachi didn`t give Sasuke his powers, Itachi perform and set a trap into Sasuke so if he ever meets Madara Sasuke would eventaly see his eye and the sight of Madara`s sharingan is the trigger to Itachi`s trap that he set within Sasuke.

The last chapter made it seem like the event of Sasuke getting a transplant is a maybe. I was just saying it was gonna be with Kakashi.

As long as there aren't more cases of transplanted sharingans we have no proof.

It was said somewhere (forgot where) that Itachi had implanted his eye powers into Sasuke.

Danzo's jutsu can be used by all Uchiha, but is a forbidden technique. (forgot where as well xD)

Well, there is Madara that can use the dimensional-transfer.

Itachi only implanted the amateresu as to what I remember, as a trap to keep madara away from him. But, madara knows how to put out the black flames, and so does sasuke later on.

The forbidden technique that Donzo uses is not what I`m talking about. He has a technique where he can mind control someone without them even realizing it. He used it at the Kage meeting at the Mt. Summint somthing.

Has he actually used the DT?

Somewhere in the manga or anime, still don't know where, it said all his eye powers.

Oh didn't know he used mind control lol.

Yeah, you know when someone tries their attacks on him, they go through? That`s the DT, he has great manipulation over it I guess. When Kakashi uses it, it`s new to him but he`ll get used to the tired-ness he gets after he uses it, he got used to the sharingan pretty well for him to use sharingan and not having an uchiha body that it was meant for. Though what`s interesting is that Madara is seen to use it for defense but Kakashi used it as an offense as well.

I don`t think it says anything about all of Madara`s eye-powers, well I know not in the manga at least.

There was an Uchiha that had that technique that he used it with sharingan. Dozou (i realized I spell his name a few times differently, I can`t spell for crapy crap at times xp) got that Uchiha`s sharingan and transplant it because it was the best that he had I guess.

Oh right! -suddenly recalls that ninja being sucked into his mask-
Well Madara didn't use it as defense, he was simply defending while using it.

I meant Itachi's.

Oh, lol. The first time I thought you mistyped Danzo