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 Death Note: is the unnamed shinigami really Kira?

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PostSubject: Death Note: is the unnamed shinigami really Kira?   Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:30 am

Title says it all.

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An Unnamed Shinigami debuted in the "Director's Cut" one-shot special of the Death Note anime which only aired in Japan. Like Ryuk, he too was bored with the Shinigami Realm. This Shinigami has a skeletal figure and dons a coat, a pair of goggles, uses a tie as a headband and carries a large skeletal object which he uses like a hammer. He takes an interest in Ryuk's visit to the human realm, and bribes Ryuk with a Shinigami Apple in exchange for information how to undertake passage into the human world. Ryuk accepts, and begins to tell the story of Light Yagami's legend in regards to the Death Note. Before Ryuk can finish, however, the Unnamed Shinigami is gone, leaving the Shinigami Realm with his sights set on the Human World.

Members of the fan base have theorized that this Unnamed Shinigami may be the reincarnation of Light Yagami. This is largely due to fourteen pieces of evidence:
The coat he wears looks very similar to the one Light was wearing when he died.
He walks up stairs to meet Ryuk, which could be seen as a subtle reference to Light's death.
The way he tosses the apple to Ryuk, as Light did when alive.
A red tie (which looks like Light's) is wrapped around the Shinigami's head.
The Shinigami walks into a bright flash of light at the top of the stairs.
The fact that he inexplicably knows Ryuk's love for apples without asking the other Shinigami.
The fact that Ryuk says "Light" after the Unnamed Shinigami leaves.
The red eyes that in the anime shows Light's 'Kira' personality.
He carries a scythe, similar to how Light does in some pieces of artwork.
The limp displayed while walking up the stairs is similar to the way Light limped out of the warehouse.
The Shinigami's mouth is shaped like Light's "Kira" smile.
The Unnamed Shinigami does not stay to hear the end of Ryuk's story, yet he is very interested about the human world... If he is the reincarnation of Light, he knows how the story ends and does not want or need to hear about it.
Light is standing in the Shinigami Realm during the end of the second Intro.
The Shinigami sports a messenger bag almost identical to the one Light often carried with him in Season One.
The 'Light' theory is further supported by Ryuk's statement in his first conversation with Light:
"Do not assume that a human who has used a Death Note can go to Heaven or Hell."
This particular rule does not apply to being sent to Purgatory, also known as the Shinigami Realm. This would explain what happens after death to humans that have used a Death Note, as Purgatory (Mu) is neither good or evil. In this realm, 'living' means having an empty existence of nothingness amidst the grey, grunge and greed of the Shinigami Realm.
Also, this does not suggest that all Shinigami were once Humans. Instead, the intent could be that some Shinigami were once Death Note users.
However, it is never directly stated in Death Note whether or not the Unnamed Shinigami is the reincarnation of Light Yagami. In fact, the end rules of the notebook (volume 12) clearly state: "After death [of a human], the place they go is Mu (nothingness)." and "Once dead, they can never come back to life." These rules may only apply to the resurrection of a dead body (as in the eraser from the Pilot chapter).

There is one more hint of Light's becoming of a Shinigami is briefly mentioned:
(Vol. 1, Chap. 6, Pg. 7)
[Talking about making Eye Trade]:
Light: "But you know what? If I did end up making those kinds of deals, I'd end up becoming a Shinigami just like you."
Ryuk: "There's nothing to worry about there. Light, you're already a fine Shinigami."
In addition, the fact that a new Shinigami who shares vast similarities to Light shows up unexplained in the Shinigami Realm, immediately after Light dies, is clearly more than just a coincidence.

Nevertheless, some have theorized that the 'nothingness' described in the final rule could be the Shinigami Realm for humans that have used Death Notes, and never coming back to life could mean being reincarnated as a Shinigami. Although Light may be the exception to these rules, further information has yet to be revealed by either Ohba or Obata.


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PostSubject: Re: Death Note: is the unnamed shinigami really Kira?   Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:07 pm

very interesting. do you happen to know if there is a place where this episode could be watched?

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PostSubject: Re: Death Note: is the unnamed shinigami really Kira?   Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:05 pm

It wasn`t an episode, it was an anime movie which is really the series of light finding the note till L`s death the director cuts and some alternetive scences, it was the point of view of ryuk is I read last night actualy xD

Also, I have also read that in the end of the manga ryuk takes light to the reaper world to talk to the reaper king and they agree that he will turn light into a shinigami so that he may make the dead world beautiful again. Refering to the accomplishments he made in the world of living.

I`m still reading the manga though, still a ways to go.

To watch the anime I download Veoh and install it. After that just open it and search for Death Note and desired episode, may also search for the movie known as the director cuts or "Conclusion".

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PostSubject: Re: Death Note: is the unnamed shinigami really Kira?   Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:50 pm

Well ok, I`ve read the whole series, can`t find the Beyond Brithday one though is it a fan-fic?

Anyhow, I read in the manga that the nothingness or Mu is just a thing to say because there is no such a place of Heaven nor Hell, it`s a way to say that you`ll just rot in the ground.


There are so many things wrong with the reason of things that the unnamed shinigami may be light. It is just a.....well think of a jason movie (i think it may be a friday the 13 movie probably), in the end he`s dead underground....BUT THEN THE HAND COMES OUT! O/.\O

They might`ve made the reaper to resumble light sumwhat, so that it will be assume that Crap will go down when he gets into the human world, as of Ryuk going into the human world in the begining of the series.

Oh, and there wasn`t anything of Ryuk taking light to the reaper world, it was said that when you die: that`s it.

Also on the side note: I like the ending in teh manga better and I even get about "why was it important for near to know that he wrote takada`s name when he couldn`t known that light did 1 min before", I may have miss that when I was watchign the anime or sumthing.

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