New Village War Rules Cleared

Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:18 pm

This all really stinks from my POV
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:30 pm

Aigoro if u want a down and dirty reason why you shouldnt be able to use their elite jutsu, then it is this. You use your elite jutsu and make a copy of maria, you control this clone and have also exhausted your elite jutsu for this villege war. So then you wait near the statue and attack with the clone while your sitting in the back gaining chakra back, then you walk up and pwn one of the low levels in akatsuki with marias elite and then start beating on someone else with the clone. u used an elite and another thing that is under your direct control used an elite, 1+1=2 elites everyone else gets to use one and so U as well only get one elite jutsu. I will therefore alter the elite jutsu rule, so that it reflects this and that will be the end of this discussion.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:16 am

Thats not really my fault... your strategy is faulty. If you attacked me together, you could have defeated me.

There are plenty ways to defeat me. I just dont think this discussion is productive and logical.

When Kakashi copied Zabuza's Waterclone jutsu & Waterdragon jutsu, he had no problem with it.

When an unknown Akatuski member copied each member of Team Guy, there was no problem... I see no problem with my situation.

Hard to talk in English... I think Im missing something in the translation.

Anyway... the dynamic of me coping people to their intimate detail is both an advantage and a disadvantage. If I copy someone that is near death, I get a copy that is near death...

My copies are only has strong as the originals. If fault must be found, it would be from the originals.

Also, if I become unconscious or stunned, I easily loose my clones. That is more than enough time to defeat me. Another disadvantage for me is chakra drain... I only am able to make another clone because you took time to defeat me and gave me enough time to regain the sufficient chakra to make another clone.

If you kill me ASAP, you wouldnt have me as a problem.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:23 pm

kakashi's jutsu copy is because of a bloodline effect and nothing more, a bloodline effect we did not include in this site for the sheer fact that it is a vastly unfair advantage.

As for the akatsuki copys, just because they did it that does not mean that it was fair, now did it. Naruto is a t.v. show where they give unfair advantages to people in order to create flow in the storyline of the anime as a whole. If naruto did not have any special OP powers do u think he would be a good protaganist, no he wouldnt. He would be just another worthless hopeful like everyone else that was at the chunnin exam that year. Doujutsu are very uncommon in the naruto world and give unfair advantages to those ppl. All of the people without advantages are left at the mercy of those that do, which is why everyone is allowed a bloodline on the site to balance the bloodline unfairness.

The way you speak such as with the akatsuki clones it seems like everyone should be able to make a perfect clone and such, which is again overpowered. battles would consist of summon clone of opponent on both sides making the battlesall 2vs2, and the first summoner would get to hit twice and most likely win.

How is it easy to kill you, only me, eki, and maria really can eki cause he can pwn ppl for seriously big damage even without elites and me and maria because we are completely stun/speed based. Everyone else would be stuck fighting you and a copy of themselves indefinantly with only a few exceptions of low level stunners which seem to be becoming very popular. But answer this, how is it easy to kill you if u make a clone with full hp of your ally and then sit back and run forward and attack with their elite and kill someone instantly and then beat on someone else while you are still half the field away from any danger whatsoever.

will another admin please comment on this because i tire of giving the same genuinely good reasons as to why its over powered.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:24 pm

Rules prevent me to sit back as my clone does the work. I am connected to the clone by the hip.

What ever effect the original has when it was copied, i.e. stun, ect, it will have the same effect... so in essence, the opponent still has the chance to prevent massive damage from the clone after his turn. It would only be a 50/50 chance if he want to target Aigoro or the clone... it really depends on how smart u are and what your strategies are.

Yeah... I see no reason to change my opinion about this. Ive put a big disadvantage on my jutsu already... to put another is just plain illogical.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:19 pm

to much reading for my brain to handle xD

jk, thats some smartness right there
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:00 am

"you say that stunning is a big disadvantage when you have a jutsu that gives you a 50% chance to avoid it altogether, lets say that i move within 3 spaces of you and your clone of maria, i cant attack that turn. You attack with the maria clones elite jutsu and deal 4k dmg to me i am at 1k hp then you attack and kill me, again what opportunity did i have to fight back because since you have a summon you get TWO turns and i get but one and seeing as you can attack TWICE why should you be allowed to use others elites and make that elite hit even harder. Then even if i survive that attack from both of you i will have drained chakra from marias elite and i will only have a 50% chance to live through the next turn.

Then you will say something about strategy, you strategy will be the avoidance of anything that makes you not hit first forceing someone to move in to attack and get pwned by you and your clone, in fact you might even use marias stun move and then hit me yourself and then pwn me with her elite the next turn. Someone has to be the one to enter battle range and you will not want it to be you. That last villege war did not go well for the sheer fact that the rules were not well defined, as well as the fact that someone used their elite twice, why should you have been able to when we cant, what the hell was that BS.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:26 am

I disagree.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:44 am

you disagree? how?
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:03 pm

why is it always like this, whenever any admin posts something new being added to the game ATLEAST 1 person has to complain
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:46 pm

Well... Ive already said my peace... bit if I need to reiterate my position,

1. Chakra drain would severely prevent me from making a 2nd clone if Aigoro is attacked in time.

2. Aigoro will loose his clones instantly when stunned. Almost all shinobi has 1 or 2 jutsus with stun.

3. If chakra restore was reduced to 5 points per turn, Aigoro wouldnt get the sufficient chakra to make a 2nd clone.

4. Aigoro may have the ability to survive a stun, but its only a 50/50 chance. If you wish to gamble attacking Aigoro with a clone, then do so.

5. If Aigoro has the chance to loose his clones, he should have the chance to regain or create more.

6. Having a chakra restor of 10 for each turn is too fast for Aigoro. After 4-5 tuns, Aigoro would have already full chakra to create another clone.

7. Aigoro does not have a jutsu that can potentially damage anyone for 4000 damage so it is only fair that he may be able to use the Elite jutsus of his copied clones.

8. Copied clones have all the weaknesses and disadvantages of the original. If the original was stunned for 2 turns on the time he was copied, the clone will be stunned for 2 turns as well... also goes for poison & paralysis. The clones are only as dangerous as their originals.

9. If you dont want to be cloned, make sure you are out of Aigoro's range. If you want to gamble getting cloned, make sure you got lots of chakra and stun jutsus in your arsenal.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:00 pm

1. that was a lot of bloody if's.

2. me and marias jutsu only do that much cause we are each almost level 50, if U used our elites then u would only deal about 1k dmg. Its our stats and the way we build are characters to be centered around stun/speed. if u wanted a move that did 4k then u should have made one. So why should you get a clone that can use the elites we made our characters to be centered around, with the same effectiveness as us ourselves.

3. do you even understand the word OVERPOWERED, people say maria eki and me are all overpowered, but well... we are kinda 30 levels higher than almost everyone else thats 150 extra stat points over most of the ppl that call us overpowered. We arent overpowered (eki may be to some point...sorry eki but its kinda true) we are simply very very high leveled.

4. what do those 20-30 levels that we worked months for even mean if some low level can pwn us with our own moves.

5. Ive just thought of a better limit, what if you could only copy ppl whom were less powerful than yourself (lower leveled) this is supported by the naruto series since you seem so happy to continuously bring up the series. No one in the series was able to make an independant clone that as powerful as someone more powerful then themselves.

6. Now your going to complain again.....so get on with it.
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Subject: Re: New Village War Rules *Cleared* Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:10 pm

I counted 7 ifs
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